15 January 2009

Can O' Worms

I'm going to open one; likely the first of many posts on this topic.


If you ain't a Constitutional Bill of Rights advocate, best to venture on at this juncture...

Check out THIS site. As an 'ex-offender' I am very much interested in whether I can even BORROW a gun to hunt with.

Ol' Grits raises some interesting points, as do his commentators.

So, can I 'borrow' a gun to hunt deer? In the hills of the Ozarks? In the deserts of West Texas?

How 'bout in Washington, District of Columbia, to hunt..[ I dunno; what they got?!?]???

I needs help, My fellow bloggers, for someday soon i vanquish to to them thar hills.

Can I hunt on them? With My Own Gun?!?!

Can you not tax me?

Can I vote???

More Soon... I'm tired [obvious?],

[no apologies for being 'spot on']


Catman said...

Ummm...not sure what you did (not asking), but it doesn't matter anyways. Most of the laws people are prosecuted under are just in place to justify someone's existence or to generate revenue.

Many of the so called "criminal statutes" should really be issues for civil courts, not criminal courts.

If things happen as we fear, who's gonna tell you you're breaking the law and you're going back to the pokey? Have a trusted friend or family member set something aside for you.

We all know its only illegal if you get caught.

Cygnus MacLlyr said...

Catman-you caught me awake, and in wonder myself.
Found this site upon googling ex-cons and their right to hunt with firearms ( have lots of research to do on this topic, hence the comments).

Straightforwardly, as an ex-con, I can't "own [ or be in possession of?] a firearm.

So, What of borrowing one from, say, my brother, to fulfil my buck tag limit??? I simply don't know my rights here-- but I'm GOING TO.
Atoo tired to be coherent now... more soon

THANKS for such mercurial answerage!


Bullseye said...

Come on over to my place C. I keep an extra gun or 12 just in case a friend needs one and you can hunt on my private property. If somebody don't like they can come to me. I'll adjust their attitude real fast like. And as for DC, it's full of assholes and it's open season brother. No limit !!

Lazy Housewife said...

Hm not something I ever thought about but you could bow hunt for your deer :) A bit more challenging and fun, I would think anyway. Haha. BTW, left an award (more of a meme really) for ya on my blog because I was curious to see your answers.
Honest Scrap Award

HermitJim said...

When we were talking about this the other day, I never thought about the hunting angle. Living in the city has dulled my senses, I guess!

I say, the guns should be there...and if needed can be gotten to in a hurry without worrying if it is against some law somewhere!

Just my opinion...and just remember, what's mine is yours, nephew!

Noki said...

I believe the creature of choice in Washington, D.C. is the Great White Turkey. I'm not sure about the regulations on hunting them, but mostly they're considered parasitic pests.


Catman said...

Hey Cygnus,

I'm not a lawyer, but you got me curious.

Maybe this will help.

"It is also a felony firearm crime for a convicted felon to possess a firearm at any time. A person can also be charged in a felony firearm case when they knowingly purchase a firearm for a felon, an offense called “straw” purchasing."


"The laws governing the penalties for felony firearm crimes vary by state and the specific circumstances of the crime. By definition, a firearm is a weapon that is designed to expel a projectile by the action of smokeless or black powder."


"A felony firearm charge can also be brought against a convicted felon who is found in possession of a firearm, regardless of the intended or actual use of the weapon. It is considered illegal in every state for a convicted felon to be in possession of a firearm. The offense level for this type of felony firearm crime also varies by state but is greater when the gun is loaded, kept or used unlawfully. In this case, a felony firearm offense is a crime punishable by additional imprisonment, fines, and other penalties depending on the nature of the original offense and the circumstances of the felony firearm charge."



You may also want to view US Code Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 44, subsection 922.



It would appear that the law now even prohibits you from possessing an airgun.

If it is any consolation to you, I think felons who have completed their sentences and their probation, and did not use a firearm in the offense, should not be prohibited from owning firearms.

Guns are tools. So are axes, and you can ask Lizzy Borden about that...

Cygnus MacLlyr said...

Catman- I misread last night (i WAS tired!); thought you said "not sure what you're asking"... hence my bizarre follow-up.
Oh, I've, um, "access" to a pea shooter or three... if things do happen as we fear, I wouldn't be without a gun. Like you said- anarchy; who's gonna care? no law...

Bullseye, That's the game in D.C. I was after!HA!
Appreciate the offer, Brother. Damn fine of you. now we'll needs develop a Swan Call so's one of them 12 guages doen't mistake me for one of the hungry masses!

Why Miss (er, MISSUS, sorry!) Lazy Housewife! An award! I'll be right over; I'm sure I'll answer half fun and full earnest...
And yes ma'am the bowhunt will be more challenging. I'm up for it!

What's yours is mine, Uncle and that goes for that opinion; I won't be caught empty-handed..

Ashley, They're great Turkeys all right, but in this day & age they're also mexican, african-american, asian...

Hey again, cat!Thanksfor the sites; I'll give a gander. I was reading tx's penal code last nite; some differences: any black powder or pre-1899 weapon is ok; some instances, after 5 years of completed sentence anniversary, the PTB can make exceptions (CAN, not necessarily WILL...); also can possess a gun "in the house only"-- so, if i hunted out my kitchen window...

What puzzles me-- I have the right to speak freely; I can claim any other of the remaining rights (inasmuch as they still exist for ANYONE post- patriot Act...); I'm Taxed...

Only 9 of the 10 are guaranteed me? Bet that could be challenged. Alas, spineless empty walnut sacks for lawyers...

Thanks, catman-- and thanks to everyone for your comments!

Unknown said...

Wow y'all talk like grown ups. No seriously I have so many issues with our government that I wouldn't even know what issue to start blogging about first...and since I really have no clue what most of it means (even though I should) I keep my mouth (or my fingers I should say) from typing for fear of looking like an idiot!

But I have to say I am now a fan of your writing...you could be writing about an actual can of worms and I'd read it!

Cygnus MacLlyr said...

The Stars have turned for ol' Cygnus...
Remember the skit theme from Hee-Haw:
"If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all"?

Your picture brightens my "followers"
list appreciably!

Most of the time I don't do much waxing political either; Catman, Bullseye, Mayberry-- they excell. But this issue (and a few frothy adult beverages) fires me up-- no pun intended. I wanna rant further... but I'll save it for a future blog.

So let me just say THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your comment, and for "following"... I reciprocated just before coming over here, because like you I see this medium as a neat way not only to learn but to befriend-- or E-friend as i like to term it!

thanks for stopping by My Song...
Always great to see a New Face! (Speaking of, your sobriquet is very befitting to your photo- especially the prior one...):D

Take care!

Cygnus MacLlyr said...

Oh, MM-
I forgot to mention the prospect of being one male amongst so many HOT MOMS! haha!

(I know, some of the pictures have hubbies /fiances too. Still, the numbers are good...
Still have my favorite, though!)